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Winfree is vying for a spot with the likes of Tim Patrick

in Here is your first Forum Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:50 pm
by zhangzk • 13 Posts

With not a lot left for our team to play for Womens Phillip Lindsay Jersey , Broncos fans are starting to eye the looming off-season en masse. And while the search for a new head coach will, hopefully, headline the early weeks of said offseason, the quarterback question will undoubtedly rear its ugly head yet again after a sub-par season from Case Keenum. So let’s examine some low-hanging fruit and see it for the rotten apple it is.A name that you’ll hear a lot this offseason is that of Joe Flacco, who will likely be in need of a new home since the future has clearly arrived in Baltimore in the form of Lamar Jackson. Broncos Country, don’t fall for the fool’s gold. Bringing in Flacco would solve no problems for this team.Why not, you ask? Let’s take a look.General PerformanceQB rating is a good place to start. It’s definitely no be-all, end-all argument for or against any QB, but it’s an okay measure of overall QB performance that’s good enough for a high-level view. So the good news first: Joe Flacco posted his highest QB rating since 2014 this season.The bad news? It was a pretty sad mark of just 84.2, good for just 29th among QBs who’ve thrown 100+ passes this season. Though he did beat 30th ranked Case Keenum’s 82.1 (though that can still change).In a season when “Top 10 QB” might as well be synonymous with a 100+ QB rating, that’s unacceptable. And that’s pretty much been the story with Flacco for quite a while now, honestly. Even his 2014 QB rating of 91.0, the 2nd highest of his career, ranked a tepid 17th in the NFL that year. If he’d put that number up in 2018, it would fall to 24th. And did I mention that Flacco’s career QB rating is 84.1?Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty ImagesLet’s examine some other basic performance & production numbers for Flacco over the last 5 years:His completion rate rose from 62.1% in 2014 to 64.4% in 2015, and has held steady in the 64.1%-64.9% range ever since.He threw 27 TDs vs 12 Ints in 2014, but has thrown 64 TDs vs 46 Ints since then.He hasn’t led a 4th quarter comeback or a game-winning drive since Week 3 of 2016 vs the Jacksonville Jaguars. So not in his last 38 games, which includes 14 one-score losses.DYARHow about a little more of an advanced metric from the folks over at Football Outsiders? Their DVOA stat is more commonly cited, but DYAR is more QB-specific. DYAR, or Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement, “gives the value of the quarterback ‘s performance compared to replacement level, adjusted for situation and opponent and then translated into yardage.” So higher is better & negative means your QB is actively hurting your team. Take a look at Flacco’s DYAR over the last 5 years, compared to several other Broncos QBs past and present and contrasted against an actual elite QB in Drew Brees for good measure.It’s not a very pretty picture regarding Broncos QBs, is it? But we’ll spend plenty of time this offseason discussing our team’s, and our GM’s, struggles in that regard. Today’s discussion is in hopes that we won’t open another new chapter in our book of QB purgatory. Bringing in Joe Flacco, who’s ranked 27th John Elway Jersey White , 30th, & 32nd in DYAR from 2015 through 2017 among QBs with 200+ pass attempts, would be that next bad chapter.That Price TagIf they can somehow swing it, I’m sure the Baltimore Ravens would love to move on from Joe Flacco via a trade. Any team would prefer to get something back instead of nothing, after all, and Flacco will cost Baltimore at least $16M in dead money regardless. The problem with that is that Flacco’s 3 year, $22M/year extension, signed in 2016, is a severely back-loaded deal. In addition to the remaining $16M of signing bonus the Ravens will eat, Flacco’s $6M 2017 salary doubled to $12M this year, and will continue ballooning in the final 3 years of the deal: to $18.5M in 2019, $20.25M in 2020, & $24.25M in 2021.That $18.5M salary in 2019 isn’t so bad for a veteran starting QB these days, but the Broncos will already be eating at least a $3M cap hit from Case Keenum- and that’s only if they manage to trade him away in turn. So that’s $21.5M of the cap dedicated to bad QBs, at minimum, if we want to trade Keenum out for Flacco. And if we traded for Flacco & had to cut Keenum, that hit balloons to $28.5M for the two combined. No, thank you!Alternatively, the Ravens could end up cutting Flacco. Though personally I think they’d wait and roll with him as their backup for 2019 before moving him the next offseason rather than cut him this offseason. But if they did, it’d be up to the market... and, frankly, given the level of stupidity involved in NFL QB contracts in recent years and Flacco’s 163 games of starting experience? His price would only go up, as ridiculous as that is.Reality CheckOn the scale of free agent QB signings, from incredible (Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, etc) to incredibly stupid (Brock Osweiler, <insert pre-Mayfield Browns QB of your choice>) Womens Royce Freeman Jersey , you tell me where Flacco would rate.But before you do, consider all of the above and then consider this: He just lost his job to a rookie QB who’s completing just 58.9% of his passes & who has thrown just 5 TDs vs 3 Interceptions in 5 games as the starter. And who has rushed the football 86 times in those 5 games for 427 yards vs 731 yards gained by passing. That’s 146 passing yards per game.This in a league where increasingly QB-friendly, passing-friendly rules have 34 different QBs with 100+ pass attempts completing 60%+ of their passes, and 37 different QBs in the same group are throwing for over 150 yards per game (and 19 are throwing for 250+ yards per game). And even in that environment Lamar Jackson, whose best weapons at the moment are his legs, is a better start at QB than Joe Flacco.If there’s a solution to the Broncos’ quarterback woes this offseason, it’s not Joe Flacco. He’ll cost too much, he’s barely an upgrade on Keenum (if at all), and frankly he’s just not a good starting NFL quarterback and hasn’t been for a long time. By all means, keep looking for solutions & debating their relative merits. Just, please, for my sanity and your own: say “No!” to Flacco. ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — By his conservative count, Broncos rookie receiver Juwann Winfree viewed his game-winning tip and toe-drag touchdown against Atlanta in the Hall of Fame Game about 100 times.Granted, it was one catch in a preseason game. But that one reception told Winfree plenty — he could hold his own on this level after ACL and ankle injuries limited his playing time at the University of Colorado.“I saw what’s possible,” Winfree said Monday after a practice that featured a skirmish between wideouts Courtland Sutton and Emmanuel Sanders. “It’s possible I can help contribute and possible I can do this at the highest level. That catch lets me know I do belong here.”The acrobatic catch was the picture of concentration as rookie QB Brett Rypien’s pass was batted into the air by a Falcons defensive back in the end zone. Winfree spun around to track it and hauled it in while dragging his feet with 1:26 remaining to give Denver a 14-10 win in the NFL’s preseason opener.That play illustrates why Pro Bowl cornerback Chris Harris Jr. stays on Winfree in practice. Harris sees the big-play potential in the receiver who wears No. 15.“He’s just strong. He’s a strong rookie,” Harris said. “You don’t see a lot of rookies like that.”Being a rookie, though, Winfree may be prone to lapses in concentration. Harris has that covered.“Some days they might want to take it in and don’t want to bring that full effort in,” Harris said. “But I am definitely staying on ’15’ because he has a lot of talent. He can definitely help us.”Denver thought highly enough of Winfree to trade up in the sixth round to take him. That caught Winfree a little by surprise; he was hearing the Vikings would use one of their sixth-round picks on him.“That’s huge for me the Broncos had that much confidence in me,” Winfree said. “Every time I’m out here, I think about that and try to prove to them why I should be out here.”His college career took a winding route. After playing sparingly at Maryland as a freshman, Winfree spent a year at Coffeyville Community College in Kansas before showing up at Colorado.Then, the injuries hit. A torn ACL during camp in 2016 sidelined him for the season. Last season, he suffered a high ankle sprain at Nebraska that kept him out for a month.In two seasons with the Buffaloes, the 6-foot-3, 215-pound Winfree caught 49 passes for 649 yards and four touchdowns. His best game was on Nov. 11 Courtland Sutton Jersey , 2017, against Southern California when he caught five passes for 163 yards and two scores.The missed games due to injuries were “super frustrating,” he said. “The more games, the more experience, you feel more comfortable.“I’ve got to catch up,” Winfree added. “But my whole life has kind of been catching up. Now I’m here trying to catch up with the veterans.”The Broncos have quite a stable of receivers, with Sanders, Sutton and DaeSean Hamilton the locks to make the team. River Cracraft, Steven Dunbar Jr., Trinity Benson, Brendan Langley, Kelvin McKnight and Nick Williams.“I’m a playmaker,” said Winfree, who dealt with a leg ailment early in camp. “Wherever I’m at, special teams, receiver, blocking, I’m just trying to make plays. You’re going to get a selfless player.”Sometimes, the moment seems almost surreal for Winfree. Like catching passes from quarterback Joe Flacco. Or hauling in a reception while Harris was covering him (it happened during organized training activities). Or that winning reception in the inaugural preseason game.“I’m happy I made (the catch) and excited for the future,” Winfree said. “But that’s one game. It’s preseason. Every week, I’ve got to keep adding on and keep adding on, keep showing why I deserve to be here and keep showing why I can help us win.”Notes: ILB Josey Jewell left practice with an unspecified injury. “He kind of tweaked his side a little bit,” Broncos coach Vic Fangio said. … Fangio hasn’t decided if rookie QB Drew Lock will follow Joe Flacco in Thursday’s game at Seattle. … Broncos DB Kareem Jackson intercepted two passes in drills. … The Broncos called a team meeting shortly after Sutton and Sanders got into a scuffle. “Can’t happen,” Fangio said. “Shouldn’t happen.”

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